So I have some big questions/issues to discuss today.
I had an overall nice weekend visiting my old friends in Caipirópolis. I took advantage of the holiday weekend and my myriad of student cancellations to make the long bus ride inland.
As you probably remember from my years of musing/complaining/analyzing, the culture of small town inland Brazil is very different from big cities in the country, and very VERY different from anything I experienced in the US. There is less exposure to people who are different from the mainstream culture. The large majority of citizens are religious. There are almost zero recent immigrants (I was one of a handful that I knew about in the region). Gay people are still ostracized. People rarely come or go. Things are slower, and more predictable.
This small town conservative culture is combined with an almost complete lack of
people speaking up. I mentioned this a little in
my previous post about the bus -- when Brazilians see things that they disagree with, like a cultural norm or an outright law being broken, they rarely say anything to the offender. They will whisper to their company, or click their tongues, but it is not the Brazilian way to speak one's mind when you believe someone else is doing something wrong.
While I lived there, this social acceptance (if that's the right word), along with this constant but only whispered surprise at anything different from the status quo, made me think a lot about relativity. My trip back this weekend brought up this issue.
Here is my first question: Where do you draw the line between something that is simply a cultural difference and something that is inherently wrong?
Here's my second question: When you believe that something is inherently wrong, when do you speak up?
I've been in many situations since my move to Brazil in which I've been forced to try to answer those questions in the moment, and in which I've had to make difficult decisions. I'm going to tell you about some of the situations and be honest about what I did. I hope to avoid judgement in the comments and to instead receive advice/insight on how you TRULY respond in situations like these (not just how you tell other people to respond, since these kinds of responses are so much easier said than done). I also appreciate any reading recommendations on the topic. (I'm going to focus on situations with people that you know, not with strangers.)
1. Once, Alexandre and I met up with a group of his work friends at a restaurant for one guy's birthday. The birthday boy drove himself to the restaurant and drank himself into a stupor. I asked Alexandre, "is he going to drive himself home?" to which Alexandre responded, as if it were obvious, "yeah. He drove himself here." I expressed my concern, and Alexandre gave a typically Brazilian response: "he's a grown up. I can't tell him what to do. If he wants to drive himself home, he's going to drive himself home." We were one of the first couples to leave. I was angry that no one stepped in to prevent the birthday boy from driving, and we argued on the car ride home. I didn't do anything because these were Alexandre's friends and it was the first time I was meeting most of them. I didn't want to be the one to make a scene, especially since it seemed like I was the only one who saw anything wrong with the situation. (However, it's hard to know, since people don't tend to say anything when they think something is wrong. Vicious cycle, perhaps.) I argued that we all had a social responsibility, not to protect birthday boy's pride, but to protect his life and the people he might hurt or kill on the way home. However, I still regret not saying anything to any of the other women at the party, who I think may have been good allies in that they would be sympathetic to my concern, they wouldn't possess the bullshit Brazilian macho mentality that "real men know how to drive home drunk," and they would also be close enough to the birthday boy to intervene. Birthday boy needs to thank his lucky stars that he made it home without incident.
2. When Alexandre was in the military, we went to another, similar birthday dinner. Luckily, no one was drunk, but the topic of conversation was gay people. You may be able to imagine the type of comments being made by the oaf-like military men and their equally ignorant wives. Lots of jokes, lots of ridiculous theories and generalizations, etc. Alexandre didn't laugh at the jokes or chime in, but he didn't defend gay people, either. He is so worried about "rocking the boat," especially with people who are more coworkers than friends (which was the case in both of these situations), that he believes it's more important not to openly question the status quo than to do what I consider to be " the right thing" (to say that you disagree). I felt pressured by Alexandre's silence and the fact that they were his coworkers, and again, I didn't say anything. But after a while I got so annoyed that I just got up and left the table. I went to the bathroom, but didn't say anything like "I'm going to the bathroom." I just go up and left. I stayed in there for a while, stalling, fiddling with my hair, hoping they'd change the subject. Apparently, my exit was "dramatic" (Alexandre's word) since I didn't excuse myself, and the table stopped their conversation because they were confused about my abrupt exit. You may not be surprised to know that Alexandre was annoyed that I'd "rocked the boat." This led to another argument on the car ride home.
As you can see, this is a huge culture clash for the two of us.
3. This weekend while out with my Caipirópolis friends, we were catching up at a restaurant. Most of my friends who were there are college educated and well traveled, but the gay jokes still started flying. One friend made a gay joke that required the understanding of a pun in Portuguese. Everyone laughed except for me.
"Aw, I don't think Danielle understood the joke," one friend said.
"I understood," I said. "I just didn't think it was funny."
My side of the table raised their eyebrows and changed the subject (a small victory, in my opinion), but the other side continued the gay bashing.
"It's like being gay is the new fad," one girl said loudly, stupidly.
"No it's not. It's not like that." These were my friends, and only my relationships and reputation were in jeopardy, not Alexandre's. So I had no problem speaking up. "You may disagree, but your country is giving gay people more and more rights. I think the same number of people have always been gay, but people just feel more comfortable being open about it now."
Luckily not all of my Caipirópolis friends are ignorant in this respect, and one of them agreed with me and made some supportive comments. It shut up the original joksters, and permanently changed the subject. I truly believe that the majority of young people in Brazil don't have anything against gay people, but (a) some people don't feel bad making non-PC jokes, and (b) most people don't say anything when they disagree with the gay bashing that they hear. I believe if everyone commented on the inappropriate nature of gay jokes, the few loud people making them would realize that these jokes are not socially acceptable, and some would hopefully even question their prejudices.
4. One of these friends from Caipirópolis recently had a baby. She doesn't have a car (or a lot of money) and therefore does not have a car seat for her baby. Car seats are expensive in this country (I just checked the Wal-Mart website: the cheapest one is R$120, but I calculated the average of all of the car seats available, and it came to R$421.70, or 62% of the monthly minimum wage), so I don't necessarily blame her. But I do think it's her responsibility to avoid taking her baby in a car. So when she offered to come pick me up from the bus terminal with another friend, I asked, "but do you have a car seat for the baby? Because I can take a taxi, really. I wouldn't want to be the reason for the baby to be in the car without a car seat." "Yeah, I have one!" She told me, so I said OK.
Unfortunately, she lied. I think she just felt bad and wanted to be involved in my arrival, didn't want to be left out, or something. But when she came with our other friend (mostly her friend) to pick me up, she was in the back seat without a seat belt on and with the baby in her lap.
I was annoyed. I was annoyed that she lied, annoyed that I needed to care more about her baby than she did, annoyed that the driver agreed to have the baby in her car without a car seat. We got to her house and the driver soon had to leave. Another friend was coming to pick us up to go out to dinner.
As the three of us were making dinner plans, I asked, "Why don't we eat somewhere around here? Then we don't have to take the baby in the car."
"No, it's fine!" my friend insisted. "I hold the baby in the car all the time."
(I'm going to interject here that this
is against Brazilian law, even though it's a law that a lot of people break.)
"Besides," my friend continued. "I have a sort of car seat." She showed me a baby carrier thingy, like this one:
"Well, you could at least bring that," I said. "But isn't taking the baby in the car to go out to dinner kind of an unnecessary risk?"
"Yeah, I guess," my friend said, but then she and the other friend continued making plans for the restaurant as if our conversation hadn't taken place.
When the friend with the car arrived, I made a point of asking her, "are you sure you want the baby in your car without a car seat?" I thought maybe she'd stick up for the baby and also for herself, as the driver, since the mother wouldn't.
"
Não dá nada," was her response. That kind of means like "it's no problem" or "nothing's going to come of it." (Later, when she and I talked alone, she told me that she didn't like the situation but didn't want to be the one to tell the mom what to do with her kid. It was very similar to Alexandre's argument about the drunk friend being an adult who could do whatever he wanted.)
What was I supposed to do here? Refuse to get in the car? What would you have done, really?
I
did refuse to be in this situation again. Friend with the baby invited me to lunch with her family on the outskirts of town. She said her uncle would pick us and the baby up, that we'd barbecue at the uncle's house, and that he'd drive us back at the end of the day. I'd been to this uncle's house before (and I'd driven myself), and this uncle is a big drinker. I highly doubted he would keep himself sober enough to drive us (and the baby (without a car seat (on the highway))) home after a barbecue at his own house with all of his family. I told my friend that I would not go in the car with them, but that if she wanted to cook at her house, that I'd be happy to do the cooking and even the shopping. She didn't really seem to understand my protest, and insisted that she wanted to go see her aunt and uncle. So I said sorry, I wouldn't be able to join them. I felt that I'd made my opinions clear quite a few times, in as polite of a way as possible. I couldn't force her to be a better mother, but I could choose not to be involved in such blatant, dangerous law-breaking and bad parenting.
So now I'd like to hear your answers to my previous questions, in light of these anecdotes. No one is perfect, and we're all going to have differences of opinions from our friends. But where do you draw the line? And is there a difference in drawing the line because of cultural differences, and drawing the line below things that you fundamentally disagree with? And what does "drawing the line" mean to you? Just saying that you disagree? Or ending a friendship all together? Or somewhere in between?
As for my friends whose gay jokes are my biggest gripe about them, I don't believe I need to like, cut them out of my life. They aren't against gay rights, nor do they mistreat gay people -- their culture just hasn't evolved enough to think that gay jokes are inappropriate. (This also comes back to the relativity issue, and how in the US, un-PC jokes are often criticized.) But this friend who had the baby was the one who made the comment about gayness being a "fad," and in this case I think my line is drawn with the gay opinions and the baby situation combined. I think she and I are just too different to stay friends. I've spoken up and given her my opinions, and she disagrees with some things that are really important to me.
I'm still not satisfied with myself about not speaking up in social situations with Alexandre's friends and coworkers, and I just don't know what the right thing to do is. I don't know where to draw the lines, and I don't know when it's even worth it to speak up.
If you've gotten this far, thanks for reading all that.